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Thornton Prayer's avatar

One of the main reasons why I read the Editorial Board is John Stoehr's ability to recognize and bluntly articulate what we're dealing with. I don't fear these people because we know they exist and who they are. Recognizing the threat they pose is the first step to being prepared if and when the proverbial sh*t hits the fan.

My biggest fear is two-fold: a mainstream media that treats these people and by the extension the oval office occupant with "deference and understanding" instead of seeing their fascistic impulses as reality and a complacent Democratic party and its voters who are caught up in finding perfect candidates and policy positions instead of turning our full political arsenal on the real threat. For me, witnessing these dynamics is a replay of what happened in late 1920's-early 1930's Germany where too many ignored or downplayed the lust for violence and retribution of the Nazis and their followers. The mainstream media, Democrats, and liberals in general need to wake the f*ck up asap and understand that these people see politics literally as a blood sport and are happy to spill our blood to accomplish their goals.

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Fred Pollack's avatar

it is really frustrating to hold a conversation with die-hard Trump supporters. There is one I sometimes talk to at a local Starbucks. Anything by mainstream print media (eg, NYT, WaPo, AP, Bloomberg News, etc), he won’t believe, but he will believe Fox News, Limbaugh, Breitbart, and, of course, Trump, liar-in-chief. And, according to him, the deep state (including the FBI, CIA, and state dept) are just part of a vast conspiracy, so evidence coming from them is not to be believed either. BTW, he is African-American, late 60’s, Vietnam veteran (wounded in combat, and still with some residual health issues), and was in the military for 20+ years. And, a nice guy. Conversation never gets heated.

And, he believes that if Trump is removed as the result of the senate trial, there would a civil war.

In these conversations, it is difficult for me to not come across as an arrogant elitist asshole, which is unproductive.

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