Stoehr: "Why did the Democrats lose seats in the House instead of gaining them, as expected? I think, more than anyone else, Clyburn can be blamed for the conventional wisdom that arose that day. The reason, he said, was quote-unquote socialism and all the messaging that arose from it. Largely thanks to Clyburn, the Democrats are now acting like losers, instead of the winners they are."
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Marjorie Cohn (23 Nov): "Ocasio-Cortez said she offered her help to 'every single swing state Democrat' and all but five refused her assistance. The five who accepted her offer were victorious or are on a path to victory. And every one who rejected her help is losing.
"Moreover, every single Democrat who supported Medicare for All won reelection, Ocasio-Cortez noted. Progressive Representatives Ilhan Omar (D-Minnesota) and Rashida Tlaib (D-Michigan) were instrumental in delivering Minnesota and Michigan, respectively, for Biden. Candidates endorsed by the Democratic Socialists of America won 26 out of the 30 races they entered."
As far as I can tell, a number of the seats we won in in 2018, we won because we turned out and they didn’t. This time around with trump atop the ticket the full trump army came out to play. It counteracted, to a larger degree, (compared to 2018), our gains in groups like the elderly and college educated whites. Combine that with what is likely split ticket never-trumpers and The end result is a loss of house seats. The blue wave happened (80 mil!) it just crashed into 72 million red tide.
That being said dems suck at messaging, and we’ve been playing defense on GOP lies and propaganda. It really bothers me that mainstream dems wanna pin our woes on progressives. Somehow it doesn’t occur to them that if we let the right control the Overton window of acceptability we will get pulled further & further right. Perhaps it comes from many of their careers originating during Reagan’s ideological domination of American politics. Whatever the case, there is a huge ideological shift happening with the younger generation and democrats are fools to cling to their “played well in the 90s” sense of messaging and media. Imagine if we ran on a pro economic message of our own and didn’t let nonsense such as the “trump economy” stand. We have to get our own messaging out their and we have get it where people who are falling for GOP lies will see it. This means local TV, Facebook, YouTube, and Spanish language stuff, and that’s just the start of the list. I fear the party poo-bahs like Clyburn are far to rigid and afraid to meet this moment.
Please help me remember why the quote unquote Dixiecrat , um republican shouted at President Obama who was speaking at a joint session of Congress, "You lie". Has anybody in congress ever stood up while the current potus was speaking to a joint session and shouted that at djt?
All the pundits trying to "explain" Biden's landslide forget that he was the best candidate to bring in moderate and disenchanted Republicans, as well as Republican-leading independents. One of the biggest shifts in 2020 vs. 2016 was the percent of college-educated white male voters who voted for Biden. It's fair to assume that that segment, which is likely to be fairly well off, was Republican or Republican leaning in the past. As much as they hated Trump, never-Trumpers would have sat the election out rather than cast a vote for Bernie Sanders.
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Stoehr: "Why did the Democrats lose seats in the House instead of gaining them, as expected? I think, more than anyone else, Clyburn can be blamed for the conventional wisdom that arose that day. The reason, he said, was quote-unquote socialism and all the messaging that arose from it. Largely thanks to Clyburn, the Democrats are now acting like losers, instead of the winners they are."
OTOH --
Marjorie Cohn (23 Nov): "Ocasio-Cortez said she offered her help to 'every single swing state Democrat' and all but five refused her assistance. The five who accepted her offer were victorious or are on a path to victory. And every one who rejected her help is losing.
"Moreover, every single Democrat who supported Medicare for All won reelection, Ocasio-Cortez noted. Progressive Representatives Ilhan Omar (D-Minnesota) and Rashida Tlaib (D-Michigan) were instrumental in delivering Minnesota and Michigan, respectively, for Biden. Candidates endorsed by the Democratic Socialists of America won 26 out of the 30 races they entered."
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As far as I can tell, a number of the seats we won in in 2018, we won because we turned out and they didn’t. This time around with trump atop the ticket the full trump army came out to play. It counteracted, to a larger degree, (compared to 2018), our gains in groups like the elderly and college educated whites. Combine that with what is likely split ticket never-trumpers and The end result is a loss of house seats. The blue wave happened (80 mil!) it just crashed into 72 million red tide.
That being said dems suck at messaging, and we’ve been playing defense on GOP lies and propaganda. It really bothers me that mainstream dems wanna pin our woes on progressives. Somehow it doesn’t occur to them that if we let the right control the Overton window of acceptability we will get pulled further & further right. Perhaps it comes from many of their careers originating during Reagan’s ideological domination of American politics. Whatever the case, there is a huge ideological shift happening with the younger generation and democrats are fools to cling to their “played well in the 90s” sense of messaging and media. Imagine if we ran on a pro economic message of our own and didn’t let nonsense such as the “trump economy” stand. We have to get our own messaging out their and we have get it where people who are falling for GOP lies will see it. This means local TV, Facebook, YouTube, and Spanish language stuff, and that’s just the start of the list. I fear the party poo-bahs like Clyburn are far to rigid and afraid to meet this moment.
Please help me remember why the quote unquote Dixiecrat , um republican shouted at President Obama who was speaking at a joint session of Congress, "You lie". Has anybody in congress ever stood up while the current potus was speaking to a joint session and shouted that at djt?
All the pundits trying to "explain" Biden's landslide forget that he was the best candidate to bring in moderate and disenchanted Republicans, as well as Republican-leading independents. One of the biggest shifts in 2020 vs. 2016 was the percent of college-educated white male voters who voted for Biden. It's fair to assume that that segment, which is likely to be fairly well off, was Republican or Republican leaning in the past. As much as they hated Trump, never-Trumpers would have sat the election out rather than cast a vote for Bernie Sanders.